@fsfe Router freedom essentially killed the cable modem market in Germany, forcing users to use either the provider router (which might not have bridge mode) or buy a Fritz!Box.
Before router freedom, you got a modem, and put your own router behind it.
There are one or two modems that are compatible with EuroDOCSIS 3.1 that one shop imports, but they're not officially marketed for Germany.
In summary, router freedom brought the opposite.
@juliank @fsfe My perception is rather that there was never a free market in the cable area. Even before Vodafone I was forced to use UnityMedia's Cisco Modem (ok, was acceptable), but Vodafone practically killed the choice (beeing a ISP enforced router box advacate to begin with, even before entering the cable market).
@juliank @fsfe @grimneko I see where you are coming from, but would still disagree. Also having to use an ISPs modem ("point B" in BEREC speech) neglects sovereignty over your devices. Furthermore, even back then you were not able to always get a modem (made these experiences with KabelBW and UM myself, and of course also with DSL connections).
The choice is still limited in the cable market, but at least there is one! And if we get Router Freedom in more EU states, demand/supply increases
@fsfe A Technicolor TC4400-EU DOCSIS 3.1 modem (https://shop.wernerelectronic.de/antennen-und-kabelfernsehtechnik/tc4400-eu-kabel-modem-docsis-3-1.html). Originally I had a Cisco 3208 Modem Docsis 3.0 in use when I was a Unitymedia customer (supplied by them even), but since it became Vodafone that option is not available any more and my one died last year. It got replaced with their "Vodafone Station" which i hope to replace.
@grimneko @fsfe Die SIP-Daten muss dir dein ISP allerdings geben, das ist im (aktuellen) TKG geregelt. Und ein Firmware-Zwang gibt es diesbezüglich auch nicht. Aber gut, viel Erfolg mit dem Modem! Und wie gesagt, gerne die Umfrage ausfüllen, das sind so Erfahrungen, die für uns sehr hilfreich sind – danke!
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